Peter Barber, Barrie Morris and Katie Whybray, representing
Grant Thornton, the Council’s External Auditor, presented a report, a copy of
which had been circulated to each Member and a copy of which appears as
Appendix 'A' to these Minutes in the Minute Book.
The External Auditor team provided a brief update on the 2023/24 position and responded to
questions, with the following points noted:
- The outstanding objection had been
concluded. All concerns raised in the objection had been considered, the
payment referenced was not ultra vires and no further action was required.
- The closure of the audit remained
uncertified because the National Audit Office (NAO) had yet to complete
its work on the Council’s Whole of Government Accounts. This was a
national issue affecting all councils not just BCP. The risk was
confirmed as minimal.
- The uplift had increased the audit fee
to £493,539. The delay in certifying the audit’s closure would not adjust
the fee further.
- The audit fee was driven by a scale fee
set annually by the Public Sector Audit Appointments (PSAA). Any variation
was subject to challenge by the PSAA and the Council. BCP Council’s fee
was considered appropriate for the size and complexity of its accounts.
Fee comparison data was publicly available at PSAA Auditor Directory 2024 to 2025
- It was
confirmed that FuturePlaces was referenced in the Value for Money (VFM)
conclusions which had found that the Council’s governance arrangements as
a whole were now effective.
The Committee was advised of the work planned in undertaking
the audit of the Council’s Statement of Accounts 2024/25, as detailed in the
Appendix 1. The Audit Plan set out key developments impacting the audit
approach, identified risks (including International Financial Reporting
Standards (IFRS) 16), group audit, the IT audit strategy and value for money
arrangements. Details of the fee estimate were also included.
The External Auditor team and officers responded to questions, with the following
points noted:
- On VFM
arrangements, it was confirmed that prior year recommendations were
checked to see if they had been addressed
- The
Council was in a better starting position for the 2024/25 audit than
others and in the next few years the level of assurance should increase to
a point of giving an unmodified opinion on the accounts.
- The
Chief Financial Officer agreed to confirm how the audit fee appeared in
the 2025/26 budget compared to the proposed fee.
- The
procedures for considering and rebutting the risk of fraud in revenue and
expenditure cycles were explained
- A lower
materiality figure was specified for senior officer remuneration
disclosures but not for other areas
- Risks
relating to national/global events were considered to some extent, however
the main focus was on risks which had a direct impact on the Council’s
financial statements and VFM arrangements
- The same
Grant Thornton team now audited the accounts for Dorset County Pension
Fund (DCPF), meaning there would be more awareness of the progress of
DCPF’s audit
- An
assessment of Barnett Waddington’s approach as actuary including an
evaluation of its assumptions and data would form part of the External
Auditor’s audit opinion
- The
audit procedures in relation to non-rebuttable presumed risk of management
override, included focussed testing to identify unusual journals and
testing for new/unusual/complex items
- The
escalation policy aimed to address delays in the production of financial
statements. For urgent matters there was a mechanism for the External
Auditor to expedite any concerns to the Chair.
Members raised concerns about the implications of IFRS16 in
relation to leases, particularly the potential impact on community
organisations and whether it was factored into the Internal Audit Plan. It was
noted that the Audit Plan was an evolving document and that Internal Audit
would liaise with management on expected issues and actions. The Portfolio
Holder confirmed that much work had already been completed by the Finance team
in preparation for the external audit.
RESOLVED that the Grant Thornton External Audit Plan
2024/2025 for the Council be noted.
Voting: Unanimous
Following this item the meeting was adjourned for a short
comfort break.