Peter Barber, Barrie Morris and Katie Whybray,
representing Grant Thornton, the Council’s External Auditor,
presented a report, a copy of which had been circulated to each
Member and a copy of which appears as Appendix 'A' to these Minutes
in the Minute Book.
The External Auditor team provided a brief update on the 2023/24 position and responded to
questions, with the following points noted:
- The
outstanding objection had been concluded. All concerns raised in
the objection had been considered, the payment referenced was not
ultra vires and no further action was required.
- The
closure of the audit remained uncertified because the National
Audit Office (NAO) had yet to complete its work on the
Council’s Whole of Government Accounts. This was a national
issue affecting all councils not just BCP. The risk was
confirmed as minimal.
- The
uplift had increased the audit fee to £493,539. The delay in
certifying the audit’s closure would not adjust the fee
further.
- The
audit fee was driven by a scale fee set annually by the Public
Sector Audit Appointments (PSAA). Any variation was subject to
challenge by the PSAA and the Council. BCP Council’s fee was
considered appropriate for the size and complexity of its accounts.
Fee comparison data was publicly available at
PSAA Auditor Directory 2024 to 2025
- It was confirmed
that FuturePlaces was referenced in the Value for Money (VFM)
conclusions which had found that the Council’s governance
arrangements as a whole were now effective.
The Committee was advised of the work planned
in undertaking the audit of the Council’s Statement of
Accounts 2024/25, as detailed in the Appendix 1. The Audit Plan set
out key developments impacting the audit approach, identified risks
(including International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS) 16),
group audit, the IT audit strategy and value for money
arrangements. Details of the fee estimate were also included.
The External Auditor team and officers
responded to questions, with the following points
noted:
- On VFM
arrangements, it was confirmed that prior year recommendations were
checked to see if they had been addressed
- The Council was in
a better starting position for the 2024/25 audit than others and in
the next few years the level of assurance should increase to a
point of giving an unmodified opinion on the accounts.
- The Chief Financial
Officer agreed to confirm how the audit fee appeared in the 2025/26
budget compared to the proposed fee.
- The procedures for
considering and rebutting the risk of fraud in revenue and
expenditure cycles were explained
- A lower materiality
figure was specified for senior officer remuneration disclosures
but not for other areas
- Risks relating to
national/global events were considered to some extent, however the
main focus was on risks which had a direct impact on the
Council’s financial statements and VFM arrangements
- The same Grant
Thornton team now audited the accounts for Dorset County Pension
Fund (DCPF), meaning there would be more awareness of the progress
of DCPF’s audit
- An assessment of
Barnett Waddington’s approach as actuary including an
evaluation of its assumptions and data would form part of the
External Auditor’s audit opinion
- The audit
procedures in relation to non-rebuttable presumed risk of
management override, included focussed testing to identify unusual
journals and testing for new/unusual/complex items
- The escalation
policy aimed to address delays in the production of financial
statements. For urgent matters there was a mechanism for the
External Auditor to expedite any concerns to the Chair.
Members raised concerns about the implications
of IFRS16 in relation to leases, particularly the potential impact
on community organisations and whether it was factored into the
Internal Audit Plan. It was noted that the Audit Plan was an
evolving document and that Internal Audit would liaise with
management on expected issues and actions. The Portfolio Holder
confirmed that much work had already been completed by the Finance
team in preparation for the external audit.
RESOLVED that the Grant Thornton External
Audit Plan 2024/2025 for the Council be noted.
Voting: Unanimous
Following this item the meeting was adjourned
for a short comfort break.