The Leader of the Council, the Portfolio
Holder for Housing and the Portfolio Holder for Covid Resilience,
Schools and Skills presented a series of reports, copies of which
had been circulated to each Member and copies of which appear as
Appendices 'A-C' to these Minutes in the Minute Book.
Budget and
MTFP
A
number of issues were raised by the Board in the subsequent
discussion, including:
- A Board Member
queried the additional £13M to be added to the adult social
care budget, particularly when the majority of it was to be spend
on the minimum wage increase? He further queried why the decision
had been made to not take advantage of the option of a precept
increase this year as allowed by the Government and if it would be
pursued as an option for next year. The Leader of the Council
stated that he would ask the S151 Officer to cover the detail
relating to the additional £13M before explaining that it had
been identified that the council, helped by the transformation
programme, had no need to increase the adult social care precept
this financial year. He added that whilst there was the opportunity
to increase the precept by a full 3% next year, this was not the
ambition it was hoped that this would not be necessary and would
therefore allow residents to be better off for it. The S151 Officer
highlighted that Section 42 of the report set out the reasons for
why £13m extra investment was needed for adult social
care.
- A Board Member
agreed with the importance of keeping money in the pockets of
residents, but it did appear to him that this meant the council was
borrowing more and also selling off more of its assets. He stated
that it was important that vital services were funded, and it
seemed odd that the Leader was not taking advantage of the offer
from central government to increase the adult social care precept.
The Leader of the Council highlighted that the council retained the
option to take advantage of this allowance in 2022/23, but aspired
to not have to do this in full unless absolutely necessary. He
added that 41% of conservative-led councils were taking advantage
of precept offer, as 82% of labour-led councils, which was proof
that BCP Council were being more efficient and £44M of these
efficiencies were from the transformation plan.
- A Board Member
commented that the use of flexible capital receipts needed to be
done responsibly and felt that the current method was “on
steroids” and queried why utilising capital receipts had been
“turbo charged”? The Leader disagreed with this analogy
and indeed the comments raised. He added that the Council should be
retaining assets and not selling them selling off, what was being
done was allowing the Council to maximise offers from the
government. The S151 Officer referred to figure 11 and section 65
of report, which set out the capital receipts/assets which had been
used for this budget and stated that the majority of the assets
listed were now sold subject to planning permission being granted,
at which point the receipts would be provided.
- A Board Member
commented that he saw “huge gaps” between this budget
and the reset paper that had been referred to and that it
didn’t seem to cover the investment gains or income from
community mutual bonds that had been discussed in the reset paper.
He commented that the budget seemed to take the principles that the
previous administration had set out and built on it. He added that
it appeared that there would be a high level of borrowing to funs
the expenditure. The S151 Officer highlighted that councils were
not permitted to borrow in order to finance expenditure and this
budget was not doing so, what the council was allowed to do was use
receipts from disposed assets to finance transformation
expenditure, to do this the council had to submit various returns
to the government as detailed within the transformation section of
this report. The Leader of the Council explained that community
mutual bonds were not an MTFP item, but had been included as part
of the treasury management reports that had been through the Audit
and Governance Committee. He further detailed that this budget
funded the priorities that had been set out by the administration.
The S151 Officer directed the Board to S180 of the report, which
made the commitment to exploring the use of community bonds in the
future to support the council’s climate change and ecological
emergency.
- A Board Member
commented that she felt that other precepts paid as part of council
tax needed to be explained for residents’ benefit. The Leader
of the Council explained that as well as the basic Council tax,
there was also a precept levied by the police and fire authorities,
which were separate to council tax, as were the precepts for the
charter trustees and town/parish council. Further to this point,
the S151 Officer highlighted that all precepts would be detailed in
the final report to Council as not all precepts had been set at the
time of the publication of this report.
- The Chairman of the
Children and Young People’s O&S Committee was invited to
comment on aspects of the budget that related to Children’s
Services and he stated that the baseline budget for
children’s services appeared to be adequate and was well
monitored. He added that there were some good news stories,
particularly the £10m capital sufficiency for school places.
He queried where the new monies were coming from and what they
would be spent on? The Leader of the Council explained that
historically there had been a problem in the high needs block due
to insufficient places “in area”, meaning that high
cost placements were often needed. He detailed that the £10m
fund would unlock extra places and bring long term savings and
ultimately, better outcomes for children. He commented that
children were struggling at present due to the pandemic, and there
was a responsibility to take action to remedy – therefore
£1m would be coming from general fund to invest in priority
areas and £10m from prudential borrowing. Match funding from
DfE needed to be identified.
- A Board Member
queried as to when the big plan had been finalised and how much
additional money had gone into the budget as a result of plan? He
also queried figures in relation to transformation, in particular,
employment staff cuts and whether or not the administration was
comfortable that the quoted figure will be achieved? He also
questioned if the grant from Homes England that would provide
substantial funding for the Turlin Moor Housing Development had
been lost and, if not, if it was worth investing that money? He
further queried where the funding for the build costs money would
be coming from? The Leader of the Council explained that
£2.25M was going into the big plan, and that it would create
an opportunity to create a world class city region through
investment. He added that he disagreed with the Board
Member’s comments made about transformation and that it was
not in trouble as had been suggested. Turlin Moor consultation was
vital and would be best executed if undertaken on a face-to-face
basis, which was the plan. He added that there was a desire to
carry on with a planning application at the appropriate time. The
S151 Officer reminded Board Members that it was a specific
responsibility and indeed legal requirement of his role to ensure
that budgets were legal and further referring to the appendices to
demonstrate that this was the case, also explaining that the
Council and its predecessors had a strong track record of financial
management. This budget was seeking to retain unearmarked reserves
at £15.4m, increasing unearmarked resiliency reserves from
£10m to £25m and increasing its contingencies from
£1.2M to £3.6M.
- A Board Member
stated that he welcomed extra investment in regeneration and
queried the total sum of extra funding from big plan and also
whether the cost of replacing and refurbishing the Turlin Moor
playing fields were included in the budget. The Leader of the
Council explained that difficult to answer first question as the
big plan was inclusive of everything. He added that there was no
detail in the big plan relating to specifically to playing
fields.
- The Chairman stated
that he felt it to be regrettable to have lost £3.8M of grant
funding for the Turlin Moor development project and queried whether
an extension could be sought? He also queried why the surveying
fees had exceeded what was originally budgeted for by three times?
The Leader of the council explained that he had taken part in a
detailed conversation with Homes England and felt content that the
big plan will provide an avenue to reapply for a further grant at
the appropriate time. He added that he felt it to be fundamental to
the scheme’s success that local people had the proper
opportunity to engage with through proper consultation at an early
stage.
- A Board Member
highlighted that the Unity Alliance Administration did not cancel
its priorities during the Covid-19 outbreak and that the
administration had merely paused them to focus on the delivery of
essential services. He queried the level of investment in service,
referring to appendix 2b, particularly relating to adult social
care and environment and community? He also queried the Council Tax
average increase figure, stating that “the devil was in the
detail”, and that across a two-year window the figures looked
less flattering. The Leader of the Council explained that he would
not be bringing forward a 7% increase to council tax increase next
year as suggested and that he believed money should be kept in
peoples’ pockets. The Council would be working efficiently
and that’s where savings would be made to ensure that such
increases to rates would not be required.
- A Board Member
queried if the figures in the report were correct? The Leader of
the Council explained that it was prudent to keep the option of
utilising a 3% precept in the following financial year in play, but
had not aspiration to use this as he felt confident that through
correct financial management, this would not be necessary. The S151
Officer added that he did not feel comfortable with the use of the
word “cuts” when referring to appendix 2b and
considered this to be inappropriate as it would send out the wrong
message.
- A Board Member
queried if the Leader was confident that this budget was
deliverable. The Leader of the Council confirmed that he was
completely confident and was pleased that he and his team had been
able to include some bold and well thought out ideas, whilst
setting out a series of strong priorities.
- A Board Member
stated that she was disappointed at some of the comments made
during the discussion and felt it prudent to highlight some key
facts, in particular; that it was prudent to pause funding on long
term strategies due to uncertainty from pandemic and that she felt
there had been some misrepresentations during the discussion. She
added that the MTFP was a three-year plan, that needed to set out
income and expenditure over the course of this period. She queried
what would be cut from budget over the next year? The Leader of the
Council disagreed with comments made by the board member and stated
that the MTFP needed to be flexible and was constantly reviewed
throughout the year and that he had ambitions to keep money in
council taxpayer’s pockets.
- A Board Member
queried the planning assumptions that had been detailed and what
would the size of the deficit be the option to take the precept
increase if not taken. The S151 Officer reminded Board Members that
this budget set the level of council tax for 2021/22 only and that
whilst it was prudent to forward plan, assumptions could change
over time and the budget was continually monitored as a result,
meaning that as the time came to put forward the 2022/23 budget the
figures would be updated accordingly and any requirements to
increase council tax or raise precepts would be considered at this
point. He added that Council Tax base calculation was done
annually, every January, including working out the impact on cost
of the Local Council Tax Support Scheme (LCTSS). He also referred
to Section A of Appendix 3b, which identified resiliency reserves
that would receive extra investment.
- A Board Member
queried the children’s covid recovery fund and sought clarity
as to how it would be used and if there could be a guarantee that
children’s centres and youth clubs would be protected in this
budget? She further queried if it was appropriate to be investing
in events that would bring people together, which did not seem
logical? Finally, she queried if there was going to be an impact on
the pricing for care placements? The Leader of the Council
explained that whilst the majority of schools within the area were
no longer the direct responsibility of the council in terms of
their day to day operation, all children living within the
conurbation were and this meant that they would benefit from the
covid recovery fund, particularly those who had been significantly
disadvantaged by the pandemic and listed a number of ways that the
fund could be spent. He added that children’s centres and
youth clubs would be protected. He
explained that the council had a world-class resort and that it was
wise to promote it with a bounce-back festival. The S151 Officer
drew Board Members’ attention to Section 42 of report, which
centred around investment into ASC and the contingency funds that
would be drawn upon if necessary from the government’s
allocated grant
- The Chairman
queried costs relating to redundancy as a result of the
transformation programme and queried the number of staff that this
could affect. The Leader of the Council detailed that he was
expecting costs to increase over time and that at present there
could be somewhere in the region of 600 staff being made redundant
although it would be about bringing the right savings going forward
and this process would involve the council’s Strategic
Implementation Partner.
- The Chairman
queried investment restrictions as detailed in Section 181 of the
report and whether or not this had any impact on existing schemes
such as the Winter Gardens site? The Leader of the council
explained that these restrictions were for investment, but did not
cover regeneration projects, which could be funded by PWLB
borrowing. In the future, the council would be looking at long term
property investment.
- The Chairman sough
additional clarification on what was meant by “work to enable
communities take more responsibilities for their needs” on
page 52, Section 63 of the report? The Leader of the Council
explained that this meant there was a desire to empower communities
to be able to do more in their area.
- The Chairman
queried that a significant sum of money would be raised by fees and
charges, would be increased or from new fees? The Leader of the
Council explained that these would be recoveries from the
pandemic.
- A Board Member
queried why the unallocated reserves were so low and why the
opportunity hadn’t been taken to increase them? He further
queried why the Turlin Moor consultations had not been undertaken
as planned? He also queried the purpose of the proposed Encampments
Manager i.e. what role they would undertake? The Leader of the
Council explained that the Encampments Manager was already funded
from last year’s budget. In respect of the Turlin Moor
development he explained that there was a great need to listen to
ward councillors and planned to undertake the already mentioned
consultation on face to face basis.
- A Board Member
commented that he felt it strange that this council was not taking
advantage of the ASC precept option that was open to it. The Leader
of the Council stated that he had no intention to take advantage of
people and had subsequently put forward a strong budget that made
best use of resources.
- A Board Member
queried the funding surrounding transformation and indeed the
saving of the outlined £44M? The Leader of the Council
explained that the council could invest in services through
transformation savings.
- A Board Member
queried if the Council had the people power to meet the carbon
neutral target by 2030? The Leader of the Council highlighted that
he remained remains fully committed to this target, plus there was
also the opportunity to take advantage of community bonds to assist
with this objective.
- A Board Member
referred to Section 37 of the report and queried why there was a
reduction in earmarked reserves by March 2022 detailed in appendix
3. The Leader of the Council explained that he had been clear that
an extra £25m was going into reserves this upcoming financial
year. He added that earmarked reserves being referred to, would be
claimed against what was already due to be spent and explained that
reserves were fluid. The S151 Officer referred to Appendix 3b and
set out the current position and the forecast for March 2022, plus
movements.
- A Board Member
queried if match funding for certain projects would be included
within the budget, in particular referring to the Tuckton Bridge
Project? The S151 Officer explained that there was no consistent
principle applied in relation to match funding as it would often
depend on the grant conditions as to what approach was taken. He
would look into the arrangements for the named project and advise
the Board Member offline.
- A Board Member
advised that she was aware of how long it took to put a budget
together and queried if the departure of one of the corporate
directors would be reflected in any of the specifics when investing
in the planning team as this was a significant area within the
council that needed fundamental changes. The Leader of the Council advised that this was a big budget
in terms of regeneration plus extra
funding was also being committed to investing into the planning
teams, this would allow the council to properly consider the
organisational structure.
- At the invitation
of the Chairman, a non-Board Member raised a query in relation to
the long overdue proposals for disabled access at Pokesdown
Station, in particular where in the budget was this detailed? The
Leader of the Council explained that he and his Cabinet Team were
absolutely committed to the regeneration of Boscombe, including the
pursuit of disability access at Pokesdown Station, however there
was due process to be followed and at this nothing had gone through the formal process to date and as
such there was no funding specifically earmarked for this project.
He added that what the budget did include was the futures fund,
which could assist with financing any proposals that came forward
and reassured Members that he was committed to seeing the
appropriate access come to fruition.
- The Non-Board
Member queried if any formal process had been started as he was
conscious that the funding from South Western Railways was time
limited and without the Council’s commitment could be lost
easily and pressed to obtain commitment from the Leader. The Leader
of the Council explained that the Council was not in a position to
commit to anything at this point on this matter as doing so would
circumvent due process.
- The Chairman noted
that the investment programme referred to within the budget did not
include investment in Bournemouth Development Company (BDC)
projects and queried how members would be able to see what the
investments were and how this was reflected in the capital
investment programme within the budget? The S151 Officer explained
that as a general rule, any investments made by BDC were not
included as part of the budget, however, if the council chose to
invest in a BDC project, this would be included in the capital
investment programme.
HRA Budget
Setting
A
Board Member queried how much money had been put aside to resolve
issues with unsafe cladding? The Portfolio Holder for Housing
explained that no further funding had been put aside
in addition to what had already agreed for the recladding of Sterte
Court in Poole. He added that the Council had also made a decision
to not recharge leaseholders for the recladding. It was expected
that the Government would be reimbursing the Council for the
majority of expenditure encountered in relation to this
project.
DSG and Early Years
Formulae
Before this item was discussed the Portfolio
Holder for Covid Resilience, Schools and Skills responded to an
earlier question relating to match funding from the Department for
Education (DfE) raised during the budget item by the Chairman of
the Children and Young People’s O&S Committee. She
explained that negotiations with the DfE were ongoing in relation
to match funding arrangements and the matter was not yet concluded
so would provide an update once this was available.
No comments or queries were raised in relation
to this item.
The Chairman thanked Members for their
contributions in the discussions for the three items discussed so
far. He added that there appeared to be no recommendations to
change the budget at this point, although this would not stop an
alternative budget from being put forward to Council at its Meeting
on 23 February 2021.