The Leader of the Council, the Portfolio Holder for Housing
and the Portfolio Holder for Covid Resilience, Schools and Skills presented a
series of reports, copies of which had been circulated to each Member and
copies of which appear as Appendices 'A-C' to these Minutes in the Minute Book.
Budget and MTFP
A number of issues were raised
by the Board in the subsequent discussion, including:
- A Board
Member queried the additional £13M to be added to the adult social care budget,
particularly when the majority of it was to be spend on the minimum wage
increase? He further queried why the decision had been made to not take
advantage of the option of a precept increase this year as allowed by the
Government and if it would be pursued as an option for next year. The
Leader of the Council stated that he would ask the S151 Officer to cover
the detail relating to the additional £13M before explaining that it had
been identified that the council, helped by the transformation programme,
had no need to increase the adult social care precept this financial year.
He added that whilst there was the opportunity to increase the precept by
a full 3% next year, this was not the ambition it was hoped that this
would not be necessary and would therefore allow residents to be better
off for it. The S151 Officer highlighted that Section 42 of the report set
out the reasons for why £13m extra investment was needed for adult social
care.
- A Board
Member agreed with the importance of keeping money in the pockets of
residents, but it did appear to him that this meant the council was
borrowing more and also selling off more of its assets. He stated that it
was important that vital services were funded, and it seemed odd that the
Leader was not taking advantage of the offer from central government to
increase the adult social care precept. The Leader of the Council
highlighted that the council retained the option to take advantage of this
allowance in 2022/23, but aspired to not have to do this in full unless
absolutely necessary. He added that 41% of conservative-led councils were
taking advantage of precept offer, as 82% of labour-led councils, which
was proof that BCP Council were being more efficient and £44M of these
efficiencies were from the transformation plan.
- A Board
Member commented that the use of flexible capital receipts needed to be
done responsibly and felt that the current method was “on steroids” and
queried why utilising capital receipts had been “turbo charged”? The
Leader disagreed with this analogy and indeed the comments raised. He
added that the Council should be retaining assets and not selling them
selling off, what was being done was allowing the Council to maximise
offers from the government. The S151 Officer referred to figure 11 and
section 65 of report, which set out the capital receipts/assets which had
been used for this budget and stated that the majority of the assets
listed were now sold subject to planning permission being granted, at
which point the receipts would be provided.
- A Board
Member commented that he saw “huge gaps” between this budget and the reset
paper that had been referred to and that it didn’t seem to cover the
investment gains or income from community mutual bonds that had been
discussed in the reset paper. He commented that the budget seemed to take
the principles that the previous administration had set out and built on
it. He added that it appeared that there would be a high level of
borrowing to funs the expenditure. The S151 Officer highlighted that councils
were not permitted to borrow in order to finance expenditure and this
budget was not doing so, what the council was allowed to do was use
receipts from disposed assets to finance transformation expenditure, to do
this the council had to submit various returns to the government as
detailed within the transformation section of this report. The Leader of
the Council explained that community mutual bonds were not an MTFP item,
but had been included as part of the treasury management reports that had
been through the Audit and Governance Committee. He further detailed that
this budget funded the priorities that had been set out by the
administration. The S151 Officer directed the Board to S180 of the report,
which made the commitment to exploring the use of community bonds in the
future to support the council’s climate change and ecological emergency.
- A Board
Member commented that she felt that other precepts paid as part of council
tax needed to be explained for residents’ benefit. The Leader of the
Council explained that as well as the basic Council tax, there was also a
precept levied by the police and fire authorities, which were separate to
council tax, as were the precepts for the charter trustees and town/parish
council. Further to this point, the S151 Officer highlighted that all
precepts would be detailed in the final report to Council as not all
precepts had been set at the time of the publication of this report.
- The
Chairman of the Children and Young People’s O&S Committee was invited
to comment on aspects of the budget that related to Children’s Services
and he stated that the baseline budget for children’s services appeared to
be adequate and was well monitored. He added that there were some good
news stories, particularly the £10m capital sufficiency for school places.
He queried where the new monies were coming from and what they would be
spent on? The Leader of the Council explained that historically there had
been a problem in the high needs block due to insufficient places “in
area”, meaning that high cost placements were often needed. He detailed
that the £10m fund would unlock extra places and bring long term savings
and ultimately, better outcomes for children. He commented that children
were struggling at present due to the pandemic, and there was a
responsibility to take action to remedy – therefore £1m would be coming
from general fund to invest in priority areas and £10m from prudential
borrowing. Match funding from DfE needed to be identified.
- A Board
Member queried as to when the big plan had been finalised and how much
additional money had gone into the budget as a result of plan? He also
queried figures in relation to transformation, in particular, employment
staff cuts and whether or not the administration was comfortable that the
quoted figure will be achieved? He also questioned if the grant from Homes
England that would provide substantial funding for the Turlin Moor Housing
Development had been lost and, if not, if it was worth investing that
money? He further queried where the funding for the build costs money
would be coming from? The Leader of the Council explained that £2.25M was
going into the big plan, and that it would create an opportunity to create
a world class city region through investment. He added that he disagreed
with the Board Member’s comments made about transformation and that it was
not in trouble as had been suggested. Turlin Moor consultation was vital
and would be best executed if undertaken on a face-to-face basis, which
was the plan. He added that there was a desire to carry on with a planning
application at the appropriate time. The S151 Officer reminded Board
Members that it was a specific responsibility and indeed legal requirement
of his role to ensure that budgets were legal and further referring to the
appendices to demonstrate that this was the case, also explaining that the
Council and its predecessors had a strong track record of financial
management. This budget was seeking to retain unearmarked reserves at
£15.4m, increasing unearmarked resiliency reserves from £10m to £25m and
increasing its contingencies from £1.2M to £3.6M.
- A Board
Member stated that he welcomed extra investment in regeneration and
queried the total sum of extra funding from big plan and also whether the
cost of replacing and refurbishing the Turlin Moor playing fields were
included in the budget. The Leader of the Council explained that difficult
to answer first question as the big plan was inclusive of everything. He
added that there was no detail in the big plan relating to specifically to
playing fields.
- The
Chairman stated that he felt it to be regrettable to have lost £3.8M of
grant funding for the Turlin Moor development project and queried whether
an extension could be sought? He also queried why the surveying fees had
exceeded what was originally budgeted for by three times? The Leader of
the council explained that he had taken part in a detailed conversation
with Homes England and felt content that the big plan will provide an
avenue to reapply for a further grant at the appropriate time. He added
that he felt it to be fundamental to the scheme’s success that local
people had the proper opportunity to engage with through proper
consultation at an early stage.
- A Board
Member highlighted that the Unity Alliance Administration did not cancel
its priorities during the Covid-19 outbreak and that the administration
had merely paused them to focus on the delivery of essential services. He
queried the level of investment in service, referring to appendix 2b,
particularly relating to adult social care and environment and community?
He also queried the Council Tax average increase figure, stating that “the
devil was in the detail”, and that across a two-year window the figures
looked less flattering. The Leader of the Council explained that he would
not be bringing forward a 7% increase to council tax increase next year as
suggested and that he believed money should be kept in peoples’ pockets.
The Council would be working efficiently and that’s where savings would be
made to ensure that such increases to rates would not be required.
- A Board
Member queried if the figures in the report were correct? The Leader of
the Council explained that it was prudent to keep the option of utilising
a 3% precept in the following financial year in play, but had not
aspiration to use this as he felt confident that through correct financial
management, this would not be necessary. The S151 Officer added that he
did not feel comfortable with the use of the word “cuts” when referring to
appendix 2b and considered this to be inappropriate as it would send out
the wrong message.
- A Board
Member queried if the Leader was confident that this budget was
deliverable. The Leader of the Council confirmed that he was completely
confident and was pleased that he and his team had been able to include
some bold and well thought out ideas, whilst setting out a series of
strong priorities.
- A Board
Member stated that she was disappointed at some of the comments made
during the discussion and felt it prudent to highlight some key facts, in
particular; that it was prudent to pause funding on long term strategies
due to uncertainty from pandemic and that she felt there had been some
misrepresentations during the discussion. She added that the MTFP was a
three-year plan, that needed to set out income and expenditure over the
course of this period. She queried what would be cut from budget over the
next year? The Leader of the Council disagreed with comments made by the
board member and stated that the MTFP needed to be flexible and was
constantly reviewed throughout the year and that he had ambitions to keep
money in council taxpayer’s pockets.
- A Board
Member queried the planning assumptions that had been detailed and what
would the size of the deficit be the option to take the precept increase
if not taken. The S151 Officer reminded Board Members that this budget set
the level of council tax for 2021/22 only and that whilst it was prudent
to forward plan, assumptions could change over time and the budget was
continually monitored as a result, meaning that as the time came to put
forward the 2022/23 budget the figures would be updated accordingly and
any requirements to increase council tax or raise precepts would be considered
at this point. He added that Council Tax base calculation was done
annually, every January, including working out the impact on cost of the
Local Council Tax Support Scheme (LCTSS). He also referred to Section A of
Appendix 3b, which identified resiliency reserves that would receive extra
investment.
- A Board
Member queried the children’s covid recovery fund and sought clarity as to
how it would be used and if there could be a guarantee that children’s
centres and youth clubs would be protected in this budget? She further
queried if it was appropriate to be investing in events that would bring
people together, which did not seem logical? Finally, she queried if there
was going to be an impact on the pricing for care placements? The Leader
of the Council explained that whilst the majority of schools within the
area were no longer the direct responsibility of the council in terms of
their day to day operation, all children living within the conurbation
were and this meant that they would benefit from the covid recovery fund,
particularly those who had been significantly disadvantaged by the
pandemic and listed a number of ways that the fund could be spent. He
added that children’s centres and youth clubs would be protected. He explained that the council had a
world-class resort and that it was wise to promote it with a bounce-back
festival. The S151 Officer drew Board Members’ attention to Section 42 of
report, which centred around investment into ASC and the contingency funds
that would be drawn upon if necessary from the government’s allocated
grant
- The
Chairman queried costs relating to redundancy as a result of the
transformation programme and queried the number of staff that this could
affect. The Leader of the Council detailed that he was expecting costs to
increase over time and that at present there could be somewhere in the
region of 600 staff being made redundant although it would be about
bringing the right savings going forward and this process would involve
the council’s Strategic Implementation Partner.
- The
Chairman queried investment restrictions as detailed in Section 181 of the
report and whether or not this had any impact on existing schemes such as
the Winter Gardens site? The Leader of the council explained that these
restrictions were for investment, but did not cover regeneration projects,
which could be funded by PWLB borrowing. In the future, the council would
be looking at long term property investment.
- The
Chairman sough additional clarification on what was meant by “work to
enable communities take more responsibilities for their needs” on page 52,
Section 63 of the report? The Leader of the Council explained that this
meant there was a desire to empower communities to be able to do more in
their area.
- The
Chairman queried that a significant sum of money would be raised by fees
and charges, would be increased or from new fees? The Leader of the
Council explained that these would be recoveries from the pandemic.
- A Board
Member queried why the unallocated reserves were so low and why the
opportunity hadn’t been taken to increase them? He further queried why the
Turlin Moor consultations had not been undertaken as planned? He also
queried the purpose of the proposed Encampments Manager i.e. what role
they would undertake? The Leader of the Council explained that the
Encampments Manager was already funded from last year’s budget. In respect
of the Turlin Moor development he explained that there was a great need to
listen to ward councillors and planned to undertake the already mentioned consultation
on face to face basis.
- A Board
Member commented that he felt it strange that this council was not taking
advantage of the ASC precept option that was open to it. The Leader of the
Council stated that he had no intention to take advantage of people and
had subsequently put forward a strong budget that made best use of
resources.
- A Board
Member queried the funding surrounding transformation and indeed the
saving of the outlined £44M? The Leader of the Council explained that the
council could invest in services through transformation savings.
- A Board
Member queried if the Council had the people power to meet the carbon
neutral target by 2030? The Leader of the Council highlighted that he
remained remains fully committed to this target, plus there was also the
opportunity to take advantage of community bonds to assist with this
objective.
- A Board
Member referred to Section 37 of the report and queried why there was a
reduction in earmarked reserves by March 2022 detailed in appendix 3. The
Leader of the Council explained that he had been clear that an extra £25m
was going into reserves this upcoming financial year. He added that
earmarked reserves being referred to, would be claimed against what was
already due to be spent and explained that reserves were fluid. The S151
Officer referred to Appendix 3b and set out the current position and the
forecast for March 2022, plus movements.
- A Board
Member queried if match funding for certain projects would be included
within the budget, in particular referring to the Tuckton Bridge Project?
The S151 Officer explained that there was no consistent principle applied
in relation to match funding as it would often depend on the grant
conditions as to what approach was taken. He would look into the
arrangements for the named project and advise the Board Member offline.
- A Board
Member advised that she was aware of how long it took to put a budget
together and queried if the departure of one of the corporate directors
would be reflected in any of the specifics when investing in the planning
team as this was a significant area within the council that needed
fundamental changes. The Leader of
the Council advised that this was a big budget in terms of regeneration plus extra funding was also being
committed to investing into the planning teams, this would allow the
council to properly consider the organisational structure.
- At the
invitation of the Chairman, a non-Board Member raised a query in relation
to the long overdue proposals for disabled access at Pokesdown Station, in
particular where in the budget was this detailed? The Leader of the
Council explained that he and his Cabinet Team were absolutely committed
to the regeneration of Boscombe, including the pursuit of disability
access at Pokesdown Station, however there was due process to be followed
and at this nothing had gone
through the formal process to date and as such there was no funding
specifically earmarked for this project. He added that what the budget did
include was the futures fund, which could assist with financing any
proposals that came forward and reassured Members that he was committed to
seeing the appropriate access come to fruition.
- The
Non-Board Member queried if any formal process had been started as he was
conscious that the funding from South Western Railways was time limited
and without the Council’s commitment could be lost easily and pressed to
obtain commitment from the Leader. The Leader of the Council explained
that the Council was not in a position to commit to anything at this point
on this matter as doing so would circumvent due process.
- The
Chairman noted that the investment programme referred to within the budget
did not include investment in Bournemouth Development Company (BDC)
projects and queried how members would be able to see what the investments
were and how this was reflected in the capital investment programme within
the budget? The S151 Officer explained that as a general rule, any
investments made by BDC were not included as part of the budget, however,
if the council chose to invest in a BDC project, this would be included in
the capital investment programme.
HRA Budget Setting
A Board Member queried how much
money had been put aside to resolve issues with unsafe cladding? The Portfolio
Holder for Housing explained that no further funding had been put
aside in addition to what had already agreed for the recladding of Sterte Court
in Poole. He added that the Council had also made a decision to not recharge
leaseholders for the recladding. It was expected that the Government would be
reimbursing the Council for the majority of expenditure encountered in relation
to this project.
DSG and Early Years Formulae
Before this item was discussed the Portfolio Holder for
Covid Resilience, Schools and Skills responded to an earlier question relating
to match funding from the Department for Education (DfE) raised during the
budget item by the Chairman of the Children and Young People’s O&S Committee.
She explained that negotiations with the DfE were ongoing in relation to match
funding arrangements and the matter was not yet concluded so would provide an
update once this was available.
No comments or queries were raised in relation to this item.
The Chairman thanked Members for their contributions in the
discussions for the three items discussed so far. He added that there appeared
to be no recommendations to change the budget at this point, although this
would not stop an alternative budget from being put forward to Council at its
Meeting on 23 February 2021.